The following is a text message conversation I had with Brian Harner on September 30 2020. The lesson is that selfishness leads to suffering. The selfish person leads a life wrought with addiction- which is inherently painful-, and he causes stress to those who care about him and want him to succeed. The solution is The Golden Rule: treat others the way you want to be treated.
11:51AM
Kim
How is it going? That video has 12 views and I have not shared it anywhere else yet.
12:49PM
Brian
Sleeping... If that's the one you linked to Robert, probably him and a few others around him.
1:46PM
Kim
Alright. I feel inclined to check.
1:48PM
Brian
I let them play through while I was falling asleep. One question... was that peanut brittle or glass you were munching on? heh
1:53PM
Kim
Carrots. I either ruined these recordings or provided evidence that they are genuine.
1:54PM
Kim
When I sent him the video I figured he might kick you out soon anyway. After I sent it I thought he might snap and kill you or himself.
1:56PM
Brian
I think he's too much of a weakling to do anything that dramatic. Who knows, though. I'll laugh at whatever he does. Catch 22.
2:03PM
Brian
It's interesting hearing myself. I didn't realize I spoke so slowly. There's a lot of funny stuff in there. I like hearing you laugh, and thinking about how others will too. Comic relief is important. Considering the subject matter we're discussing, it's probably the most important aspect.
2:05PM
Kim
On August 3 you said on 4chan, "I was surprised he didn't shoot me right then and there." (not sure if I sent this twice.)
2:09PM
Brian
It's funny because I bought him the gun he totes around open carry.
2:15PM
Kim
Alright.
2:15PM
Kim
If there is any pattern here it might be an inability to predict what exactly will happen.
2:16PM
Kim
At least, that is all that limited human eyes can discern.
2:16PM
Brian
Well yeah. Free will is always in play.
2:17PM
Brian
Prophecy is about playing the odds.
2:22PM
Kim
What are the odds here, if that's worth thinking about?
2:23PM
Brian
When predicting actions outside of human nature, prophecy is quite easy. That's a major factor in why I say what I say about the Earth. There are so many humans that need to change, the feedback loops are crystal clear.
2:23PM
Brian
What do you mean by "here?"
2:24PM
Kim
With Robert and your living situation.
2:33PM
Brian
Like I explained... Meredith is the wildcard. If it were solely up to Robert and his mom, I'm fairly certain it would already be done. Although, now... I'm seeing just how pathetic and weak Robert is. While getting to know him, I never saw this side of him. Spineless, and very unintelligent. I saw whispers of it when the restaurant was open, but now, he's apparently hiding from me AND his parents. No idea whath is breaking point is. Then again, maybe he's doing some serious self reflection and is trying to rectify his actions. Doubt it, but it's possible.
2:39PM
Kim
I also have more unposted info on him, both in writing and audio. Not sure whether I would contact him again, or just leave him to find it.
2:40PM
Brian
I've also contemplated the greed factor. His mom thinks my "invention" is going to be worth a lot of money. They all know I'm not bullshitting anyone, so maybe they're all hoping I'll finish the grail, sell it, build more and kick down a bunch of "wealth" in monetary form to them. I'm not used to being around people like this. Very Jew-like. Greedy, lazy, foolish, and subversive. It's like you never really know exactly why they do what they do. Thing is... Meredith isn't really like that. He's a fairly hard working guy, or was anyways.
2:42PM
Brian
Just guessing, but he's probably paying attention. As far as our conversations go, post it. I ain't scurred. heh
2:45PM
Brian
You don't have to waste time on him specifically, though. If put to a higher standard and pushed to make a choice... all indications are saying he'll just hide or defer to mommy for a decision. Don't frustrate yourself.
2:46PM
Kim
Why would they expect you to give them money? And thanks for the "permission."
2:49PM
Brian
They're parasitic in nature. I can't tell you how many times I've explained how I'm not trying to get rich off of the grails. Maybe they just hear what they want to hear?
2:57PM
Kim
Reminds me of my parents. Interesting to see that someone can recognize divine energy technology while still being mentally attached to money.
3:01PM
Brian
I mean... I've had some very intricate and detailed conversations with Robert in private about all kinds of stuff. The restaurant goings on, The Hierarchy, technology, love, prophecy, his debts to me... it's never really certain from my perspective if he even realizes what I'm saying. He'll nod his head, or lie apparently just enough to get himself out of the moment's stress, or say what he thinks I want to hear, etc, but ultimately falls short of everything. Very... VERY used car salesmen routine. He'll behave that way with a smile on his face. Once you start to see that, it's repulsive to most people. So, even if you try with him, it's generally just wasted effort. Just saying. No need to frustrate yourself with him. I can just about guarantee that whatever you do do or say to him, it won't have the effect you're aiming for.
3:07PM
Brian
That's the thing, loool. Maybe he really can't understand what I've said this whole time. Either that or he's just terrified that he's not worthy and is just kind of bullshitting his way through everything. Doesn't matter. The conclusion from all this shit is that he's not to be trusted... ever again. Not much more to say. That's why I don't think he's worth your effort. Unpredictable, dishonest, and evidently selfish. Can't wait to get this grail finished and GTFO of here.
3:09PM
Kim
I at least wanted to make it clear that people anywhere can and do know what he has done.
3:10PM
Kim
Perhaps that is enough.
3:22PM
Kim
Any idea why he bothered with you in the first place?
3:22PM
Brian
I know what you're trying to do. Your "goals" are quite obvious. His aren't. Even if you accomplish your mission here, you'll never know if you accomplished your mission with him. All that awaits you is frustration. I know this because I've been around him long enough to see that shit happen to many different people.
3:23PM
Brian
Money.
3:26PM
Brian
He thought he saw a meal ticket and a free ride to unlimited degeneracy devoid of responsibility. Ever since then, he's apparently holding out hope that that is still a possibility.
3:28PM
Brian
Just like his mommy. The apple didn't fall far...
3:31PM
Kim
So it's not certain whether he has internalized any of your teachings at all.
3:32PM
Kim
I mean, if he thought you were "just crazy" he would not see the meal ticket. But he also is obviously not aligned with the message of the hierarchy.
3:34PM
Brian
Pretty much. Either that, or he did and rejected everything from the start, then just bullshitted his way through everything on a mission to use me for as much money as he possibly could in the process.
3:37PM
Kim
Alright. The larger significance is the possibility of running into the same thing in other people.
3:40PM
Brian
Without a doubt, at this point, I'm absolutely certain he is a very selfish man. Whether he's intelligent enough to have concocted a plan of such extreme subversion then implemented it from the very beginning... remains unclear. Again, doesn't matter. The equation's summation won't vary now. I'm done, and have been done for a couple of months now. I told him directly to his face that very thing. The day after that discussion, he behaved as though we were still best friends. Shit was weird. Sociopath, psychopath, extreme short term memory loss... I don't know.
3:43PM
Brian
His nickname people were calling him when the restaurant was open was Norman Bates... just to give you an idea.
3:45PM
Brian
That's why destroying money is so important. Until that happens, ANYONE can try to do something like this to anyone. Maybe he should have been a politician. LMAO
3:47PM
Brian
Does Minari mean anything to you?
3:50PM
Kim
A movie?
3:50PM
Brian
Yes, but does it have any deeper meaning?
3:51PM
Kim
Complete guess. Does it have anything to do with being genuine?
3:52PM
Brian
Hahaha, maybe.
3:53PM
Brian
Well shit... this is from Google. "to threaten some one with death, crucifixion, torture, war: minitari (minari) alicui mortem, crucem et tormenta, bellum."
3:56PM
Brian
Interesting that there's a space between "some" and "one" on Google. Should just be someone... but then again, these are like messages in most cases.
3:56PM
Kim
Is minari a recent imdb notification you got, then you looked up the meaning of the word?
3:57PM
Brian
Yep.
3:58PM
Brian
Just got it right now. Sent it to Nathan.
4:03PM
Kim
Either the queen's gambit involves minaret, or she is trying to oppose someone attempting to commit minaret. ???
4:07PM
Brian
Welcome to my world, lol. It's fun trying to figure this stuff out, isn't it? At the very least, it adds excitement.
4:07PM
Brian
Even if it's morbid... when you lose your fear of death, everything is humorous.
4:09PM
Kim
Does clinging to warmth keep people afraid of death?
4:13PM
Brian
A severed relationship to your maker is really the only thing that can do that, and rightfully so. Being afraid of the pain that possibly accompanies death is an entirely different matter. The uncertainty of what follows actual death from human life, only has "1" reason for existing in ANY psyche.
4:15PM
Kim
So a person might still fear pain while being connected to their maker?
4:18PM
Brian
Definitely. Physical pain sucks for a reason. The fear of death itself is asinine, though. It's like being afraid of breathing. Everyone will die. It's inevitable. There's no real reason to fear it... unless you create a reason to.
4:22PM
Kim
I thought in ego death one fears nothing, including pain. Maybe all the self-pity ad other degenerate emotions are taken away, leaving only real physical pain?
4:29PM
Brian
Depends on how much pain, and what kind of pain. Most of my "pain" will be uncertainty about whether I did enough for humanity to survive. It's all I think about now. Physical pain is attached to the physical body. After death, there is no physical body, so there's no real memory of it in a conventional sense. Consider pain you've experienced while dreaming. Do you remember how much it "hurt?" Probably not, because it never really existed. Physical pain tolerance is what you're referring to. And yes, you can train yourself to accept it without reaction. Think about my hidradenitis suppurativa. Same thing. Most people would faint doing what I do every day. Doesn't mean I don't feel it. It just means I've accepted it and tolerate it differently.
4:35PM
Brian
That uncertainty is not about myself, by the way. It's about caring for others. Totally diferent from how most people deal with real stress. The stress itself is what the actual "pain" is, and believe me... it's physical AND emotional.
4:39PM
Kim
So you are not conflicted over whether you have done your best. What hurts, and what is uncertain, is the fate of others.
4:41PM
Kim
My question came from wondering whether putting "mommy" (physical and social comforts) before "daddy" (maker) is a common and fundamental error.
4:42PM
Kim
That ties back into people betraying you with such things in hand as alcohol and sex.
4:42PM
Brian
Yes, exactly. My stress originates in my constant push towards trying to create the purpose within the minds of others, that I have had for my entire life.
4:43PM
Kim
That was text #222 in this particular thread in my inbox.
4:43PM
Brian
Very astute observation... but no bullshit... Robert really calls his mother that in public. And he's 50 years old. Shit is beyond creepy.
4:45PM
Brian
Good to see you're paying attention to that kind of stuff now. A little more "stress" just exited my body. Thank you.
4:49PM
Kim
Another reason for this line of questioning is literal warmth. I've been trying to push my body's ability to tolerate cold.
4:49PM
Kim
Wim Hof is the master. He can withstand freezing temperatuers for hours with no clothes. What are we really capable of?
4:50PM
Kim
And it seems he does not lose dexterity in his hands or anything like that.
4:53PM
Brian
I've heard of him. Very interesting subject material. All kinds of possibilities are possible. The extent of what each individual body can endure in regards to pain is a personal conquest, though. There's no telling what kind of parameters could be set from a collective perspective.
4:58PM
Kim
I often feel like I could do better and handle more, if only I tapped into the right "thing" or got on the correct course.
4:58PM
Kim
On the topic of pain, what is humanity's maker's suffering like?
5:00PM
Brian
Stress. Imagine the pain and suffering of losing your children to rampant drug addiction and unmitigated selfishness, when you know that they are just killing themselves.
5:01PM
Brian
It would make you not want to live anymore, if only not to witness them committing suicide.
5:01PM
Kim
Does it bother him that his body is withering away, or are his feelings focused on us?
5:08PM
Brian
His "body" doesn't exist in the same dimensional platform to that of a human, so the same ideals do not pertain. Everything he does is focused on his creations. He lacks the ability to ignore what happens here. Humanity is force feeding him this "pain," and he has nowhere to go to ignore it. It's an ever present attachment. There is no escape from his perspective other than expiration. To a human, it's unfathomable. Which is why humans are not authorized to create a new species... yet.
5:09PM
Brian
It's like trying to get a toddler to understand what his Navy seal father is going through in Afghanistan to provide for his children.
5:11PM
Kim
He has to watch every single stupid think we think and do? Poor dude...
5:12PM
Brian
Now try to imagine that same toddler putting out lit cigarettes on his mother, shooting heroin, torturing the dog... after kiling the cat, and telling his dad every time he speaks to him on the phone that he's a fag, and he can't wait to burn the house down...
5:13PM
Brian
It's much worse than that... he has to actually experience it. Not just watch it.
5:14PM
Kim
Does that mean he sees through our eyes and feels what we feel?
5:14PM
Brian
And his maker experiences what he experiences, and his maker experiences what he experiences, and so on and so forth.
5:16PM
Brian
Yes. Not just humans. Everything with his creations parameters. Animals, insects... even the Earth itself. Pretty fucked up, isn't it?
5:18PM
Kim
That is an unfathomable amount of data and intensity of feeling. And that includes a lot of unpleasant feeling in this case.
5:18PM
Brian
I've cried so many times thinking about it, I'm surprised I haven't had real physical damage from just the stress of worrying about him. Shit... I probably have and can't really focus on it.
5:19PM
Kim
So the beings we really need to extend the golden rule to are those in the hierarchy- not just other humans.
5:20PM
Brian
Correct. "Unfathomable" from a human perspective, but most fucking definitely not... from The Hierarchy's perspective. Maybe now you're getting a better idea why they're very displeased to put it lightly.
5:21PM
Brian
That's what real love is all about. Yes.
5:25PM
Kim
That all came from me asking you about Robert a few hours ago.
5:26PM
Kim
The human error is in trying to steal from "mommy" instead of serve our "father."
5:27PM
Brian
Very, very well said, young lady. Genius. Takes me like 40,000 words to say that, hahaha.
5:28PM
Kim
There are many details.
5:29PM
Kim
One reason for the error is that we do need "mommy." We currently need food, water, and warmth to survive.
5:29PM
Kim
But we blind ourselves to the fact that our "father" can help us to procure those things better than we can do so on our own.
5:30PM
Brian
Yeah. Takes a lot to get the gestalt behind that sentiment. It was funny, though. Imagine going into an Applebees and having someone ask you what is humanity's main problem right now, and that's all you said. LMAOOOOO
5:32PM
Brian
The blindness is in realizing that he already did... tens of thousands of years ago. And now... humanity has reached the absolute extent of being as far away from that place as they have ever been.
5:35PM
Brian
Hell.
5:35PM
Kim
And you can't put the fires out that quickly.
5:39PM
Brian
Not alone. It could be fast, but extremely unlikely. The more your eyes open to the reality, the "healthier" he becomes. It is a very intricate and delicate process to cure demonism...
5:39PM
Brian
Very dangerous process.
5:40PM
Kim
How is it any more dangerous than demonism itself?
5:41PM
Brian
Once all of the antidote providers are eradicated... all hope is lost.
5:42PM
Kim
Right. That's you and why you have lived fairly carefully.
5:44PM
Yes, ma'am. The stakes could not be any higher. I'm also the last Christ. I've been very well aware of the caveats involved here. Precarious, to say the least.
5:45PM
Kim
Yet you still gave all kinds of people opportunities to help you directly.
5:46PM
Brian
Nah... you did that. I allowed it because you had a lot of potential.
5:47PM
Brian
Look at all we've discussed. That wouldn't have happened if you didn't do what you did.
5:47PM
Kim
You mean everyone who has talked to you at all?
5:47PM
Brian
Oh. I thought you meant monetarily.
5:48PM
Kim
I should be more clear. In spite of the dangers, you have given people opportunities to interact with and even work closely with you.
5:49PM
Kim
There were cases where it might have been clear early on that it wa *(message cut off)
5:50PM
Brian
Yeah, that's my job. I knew the dangers involved. This is hell. Demons everywhere.
5:50PM
Kim
was not going to work. But you let everyone choose their own fate. (that message got messed up)
5:52PM
Brian
Correct. Everyone has the ability to transcend. Even demons. I don't be discurminatin'... heh.
5:53PM
Kim
So no one can say that they were not given a real chance.
5:53PM
Brian
Unless your name is Jones, James, or Robert... now anyways. Wasn't like that in the beginning.
5:54PM
Brian
Correct. Making judgment easier on my superiors, AND myself in the process.
5:55PM
Kim
If anyone with those names understands why you adhere to that guideline, they should know what they need to do to rectify that situation.
5:58PM
Brian
Yeah. Just too many wasted opportunities on them. They're not completely fucked, but I'm not taking a chance on them again.
6:04PM
Brian
Battery is dying. I'm texting you and Nathan. I'm going to have to take a break for a while.
6:07PM
Kim
Alright. We texted today instead of talking on the phone. Thanks for answering my questions.
6:08PM
Brian
Thanks for asking them.